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  • dct112685
    dct112685 Posts: 1,114

    @Bill_Coley said:

    I asked you for a more recent characterization from Schiff of the evidence of collusion. And on the video to which you linked, Schiff identifies the involvement of George Papadopolous, and then of the the emails to Don Jr about the information the Russian government had to help the Trump campaign against Hillary Clinton Schiff says, "That looks a lot like collusion to me."

    So, according to the videos you have provided, David, in the last year, Adam Schiff has moved from believing there was a case for collusion that was "only circumstantial," to one that "looks a lot like collusion" to him. Those videos comport with my understanding of Schiff's views as I have heard him express them throughout the last year.

    Actually it's just a different way of saying the exact same thing.

    Deception is a very vague term. Same way they played gotya with Hope Hicks.

    I made mention of the deception charge only to note that there was more to the first video to which you linked than references to circumstantial evidence.

    Yet they haven't been able to show any... Hmm....

    How do you characterize the emails to Don Jr that offered him "very high level and sensitive information" that the Russian government had on Hillary Clinton, emails to which Don Jr. replied, if the dirt was as the emails described, he loved it and thought it would fit well into the Trump campaign later that summer?

    How do I characterize that? Simple. Your dad is running for President and you think this is a silver bullet that has just been handed to you.

    • Given the indictments and guilty pleas in the Mueller probe, what he said three days after the appearance to which you linked, and what we have learned since Schiff's year-old media appearances about the June 2016 Trump Tower meeting between Don Trump Jr and Russian representatives, is it your view that today Schiff would STILL say there is ONLY circumstantial evidence of collusion?

    Yep, no evidence. Can't produce one shred of it.

    As noted above, Schiff DOES in fact point to MORE than "one shred" of evidence, starting with Papadopolous and the Trump Tower meeting.

    No actually he doesn't. Circumstantial at best.

  • Bill_Coley
    Bill_Coley Posts: 2,675

    @davidtaylorjr said:
    Actually it's just a different way of saying the exact same thing.

    Now we're back to expressing our opinions about and assessments of evidence - which clearly differ greatly.

    I engaged you most recently only because you cited a year-old video seemingly to report Adam Schiff's current view of the case for collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia, and I believe his contemporary statements more accurately report Schiff's current views.

    We disagree as to their meaning and significance, but at least now we have heard a more recent version of Schiff's views. Thread readers can judge for themselves how Schiff understands the strength of the case for collusion.

  • GaoLu
    GaoLu Posts: 1,368
    edited March 2018

    Why form an opinion when no one knows what really happened, not even Mueller? But form them some will! Rather than ponder possibilities or discuss ideas and their relevance to our walk with God, some just "form opinions" of the bitterest kind and invest untold hours drinking, addicted to their own poison.

    Maybe its time for the antidote: Php 4:7-8

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